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[时尚] 中国电动汽车会成中国手机那样的气候吗?

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    发表于 2019-4-19 06:58:51 | 显示全部楼层
    晨枫 发表于 2019-4-18 13:02
    既然你对氢那么看好,不妨了解一下Murai储氢的温度和压力。我找不到数据,但估计不会是常温常压。加氢站和自己车上的加氢口经过多年的粗暴使用后,还有多少密封能力……

    目前的加氢站提供两种压力
    • H35,350bar,大约5000psi
    • H70,700bar,10000psi


    Is hydrogen a gas or a liquid?
    Hydrogen is a gaseous fuel that can be dispensed at two different pressures: H35, which is approximately 5,000 psi, and H70, which is 10,000 psi. Most stations have hydrogen delivered as a compressed gas, which is stored above ground in ASME-standard steel pressure vessels. Some stations have liquid hydrogen delivered as a liquid, which is stored above ground at a cryogenic temperature (-423ºF/-253ºC).


    Hydrogen Station Configuration

    -253C,什么样的制冷能这么给力。。。

    MIRAI的贮氢罐有15年Warranty,下图是2016 Mirai,加氢口上写着“Do Not Refuel After 2029”



    这是从Mirai的宣传手册里摘出来的,氢罐号称能经受225% Operating Pressure - 也即157500bar?这是能进入地幔的强度了。。。 不过小日本的质保,也就那么回事吧。。。

    Are the hydrogen fuel tanks in a Toyota Mirai strong and safe enough?
    The Mirai is as safe as any other Toyota. Its hydrogen fuel tanks are designed to withstand up to 225% of their operating pressure, which is a very high safety margin. They’ve even been shot at with high-velocity weapons.

    The tanks’ main source of strength is their carbon fibre shell, over which there is a further layer of glass fibre. Should the car be involved in an accident, any damage to the hydrogen tank will be clearly visible on the glass fibre layer; tests can then be carried out to find out whether the carbon shell itself has been compromised. The whole tank is lined with plastic to seal in the hydrogen.

    In the unlikely event of a leak, Mirai is fitted with highly sensitive sensors that can detect tiny amounts of hydrogen. These are placed in strategic locations for instant detection. Should a leak occur in the fuel system, the sensors will immediately shut down the safety valves and the vehicle itself.

    As a third layer of safety, the cabin is strictly separated from the hydrogen compartment to prevent the ingress of any leaking hydrogen, which would instead gradually disperse into the atmosphere.




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    发表于 2019-4-19 21:14:31 | 显示全部楼层
    本帖最后由 MacArthur 于 2019-4-19 08:18 编辑
    包子 发表于 2019-4-19 05:36
    可不可以用液态的氢气呢,车上安装一套减压装置转换成气态,然后再输送给燃料电池? ...


    氢的三相图 -- 液氢只能存在于那个阴影区域,低温高压。压力过大过小,温度过高过低,都会成为气态或者固态。。。 不好伺候。。。

    不是不可以用,只是用起来太罗嗦。。。 有的时候不得不用就像这样。。。


    长五用液氢发动机


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