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日本政界，面对中国的外交是仰着面孔的，而且，已经仰了十年之久。
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-11 10:43
感谢萨大带来的真实，这是我们当前最需要的。
前两天刚看了一篇报道，横店已经成了中国的抗日基地，每年能 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-10 21:43
感谢萨大带来的真实，这是我们当前最需要的。
前两天刚看了一篇报道，横店已经成了中国的抗日基地，每年能 ...
natasa 发表于 2013-2-11 10:57
新京报本身立场就有问题吧。
抗日剧中一部分质量不高，和题材难选有关，整个影视圈现在都很浮躁，但是说 ...
马克西姆 发表于 2013-2-11 11:54
现在的抗日剧就是在糊弄人！快和中国足球一个样子了！
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-11 10:20
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萨苏 发表于 2013-2-11 10:20
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
李根 发表于 2013-2-11 11:27
新京报这种报名都是汉奸的报纸能看吗？给一个报纸起名字的时候这个避讳都不理睬，说明这是一帮神马人？
...
natasa 发表于 2013-2-10 23:24
前一阵网上流行的那个抗日奇侠剧，有人说就中国人瞎搞，然后就有人拿美国队长刀枪不入虐杀德国纳粹的连载 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-11 10:43
感谢萨大带来的真实，这是我们当前最需要的。
前两天刚看了一篇报道，横店已经成了中国的抗日基地，每年能 ...
胖得妙不可 发表于 2013-2-11 13:52
据说靖国神社供着常凯申的牌位，理由一是他容许保留天皇，二是他让战败后在中国的200万日本军民毫发无损滴 ...
agenda21 发表于 2013-2-11 13:40
诚心期待了解日本，但觉着不是正确的时机。
印象中，上世纪国民党元老中应该有很多人是了解日本民族与文化 ...
魔术师 发表于 2013-2-12 17:45
说老实话，我觉得你最后几句话就是让萨大做缩头乌龟。
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-13 11:05
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
agenda21 发表于 2013-2-13 13:03
确实有点看不懂。
政府层面上口气都很硬。真要打起来，旁观者或第三者得实惠，比如说俄罗斯韩国等等，他 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-13 16:52
很多人腿疼，但不是都非得手术不可
VOA: Some analysts believe that China may have been trying to provoke in this incident that happened with the radar for the Japanese forces to fire first. Do you believe that might have been the case, and how worried are you that your forces may not be able to restrain themselves if this type of thing does happen again?
Onodera: We have many capabilities. Whatever China’s intention was, it is our duty to protect our land, territory and airspace. So we will firmly enhance our level of ability and we are continuing to increase it.
http://www.voanews.com/content/t ... nister/1602163.html
agenda21 发表于 2013-2-13 13:03
确实有点看不懂。
政府层面上口气都很硬。真要打起来，旁观者或第三者得实惠，比如说俄罗斯韩国等等，他 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-14 11:43
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
如果真的准备有计划地在钓鱼岛打，且不论政治层面怎么考虑，军事上必须 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-14 20:53
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
日本驻华大使馆，日本外务省眼里一个既干不出什么成绩，也闯不出多大祸 ...
魔术师 发表于 2013-2-15 22:13
那么从经济领域入手，倒逼日本政府重视中日关系、主动缓和紧张形势，是否可行呢？
水狸 发表于 2013-2-16 08:04
其实不是我们好战，是美日欺人太甚，如果没有金三的原子弹爆炸，恐怕已打起来了。
我们是打得一拳开，挡得 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-16 22:58
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日本民主党能上台，是和日本的廉政呼声分不开的。
日本人的思维有时候比较怪异，比如打了败仗要禁欲，越打败仗越禁欲，到二战后期连女的穿连裤袜都是被禁之列……但是照样打败仗。
常挨揍 发表于 2013-2-17 09:33
挑个小刺，不准穿裤袜原因是裤袜原料是化纤，属于战略物资吧，《巴黎最后一班地铁》有类似的段子，爱俏的 ...
agenda21 发表于 2013-2-13 13:03
确实有点看不懂。
政府层面上口气都很硬。真要打起来，旁观者或第三者得实惠，比如说俄罗斯韩国等等，他 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-17 13:36
钓鱼岛问题的关键，是中国要打破美国套在中国外圈的枷锁，这个目标中国必须实现，也是中国的底限。所以， ...
agenda21 发表于 2013-2-18 01:09
其实美帝封锁论早就有的。理论上讲，只要不是最强者，你就被各种势力包围着，而解脱之道就是统一。只有统 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-18 08:14
此贴主要谈日本，中国的事情建议单独开贴。谢谢。
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-18 23:41
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
鸠山快不行了的时候，我曾问过一个日本朋友，看下一代日本首相会是什么 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-18 23:41
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
鸠山快不行了的时候，我曾问过一个日本朋友，看下一代日本首相会是什么 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-18 23:41
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
鸠山快不行了的时候，我曾问过一个日本朋友，看下一代日本首相会是什么 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-18 23:41
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
鸠山快不行了的时候，我曾问过一个日本朋友，看下一代日本首相会是什么 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-20 03:42
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
仙人写了个帖子，分析中日关系，写了三篇，建议大家去看一看，是极有价 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-19 10:24
实际上，在去年9.18时，我们发现一个有趣的现象，就是越是远离日本的地方，反日倾向越严重，反而是 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-20 17:57
原来日本一直不承认钓鱼岛存在纠纷的根源在这里，谢谢老萨解开了一个疑惑 ...
魔术师 发表于 2013-2-20 22:01
问题是，民间交流这种事不靠政府引导是很难深入的，而一旦要靠政府主导，就涉及到政府意愿的问题。如果小 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-20 22:08
俺说的是首先要先搞好大环境，即在外交政策上作出调整，对日本民众希望日本成为正常国家的意愿进行有条件 ...
魔术师 发表于 2013-2-20 22:14
我怎么觉得日本人对成为正常国家没有多大诉求呢？纯感觉，不知道对不对。
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-20 22:21
沉默的大多数对什么都没感觉，就象中国的大多数民众其实对国际问题也没感觉。但政府往往就代表那些喜欢发 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-21 01:29
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2012年钓鱼岛“买岛危机“发生之前，钓鱼岛的情况是这样的 – 中日双方 ...
apan’s Prime Minister Shinzo Abe: Chinese need for conflict is ‘deeply ingrained’
By Chico Harlan, Published: February 20
TOKYO — China has a “deeply ingrained” need to spar with Japan and other Asian neighbors over territory, because the ruling Communist Party uses the disputes to maintain strong domestic support, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said in an interview.
Clashes with neighbors, notably Japan, play to popular opinion, Abe said, given a Chinese education system that emphasizes patriotism and “anti-Japanese sentiment.”
Abe’s theory on the entrenched motivation behind China’s recent naval aggression helps explain why he has spent more effort trying to counter the Chinese than make peace with them: He thinks the fierce dispute with China over an island chain in the East China Sea isn’t going away anytime soon.
Abe spoke about China in what aides described as unusually detailed terms, laying out challenges that Chinese leaders might face if other Asian countries, unnerved by Beijing’s maritime expansionism, decide to reduce trade and other economic ties. China’s government would be hurt by such moves, Abe said, because without economic growth, it “will not be able to control the 1.3 billion people . . . under the one-party rule.”
Abe also laid out his plans for deterrence, which include boosting military spending and strengthening ties with Thailand, Vietnam, Indonesia and other nations that share concerns about Beijing. Abe, who is to meet Friday with President Obama in Washington, said the U.S. presence in Asia is “critical” to deter China from taking territory controlled by other countries.
His comments came in an interview Saturday with The Washington Post, which The Post was granted on the condition that the article not be published until Abe was departing for Washington.
In recent years, China has played an increasingly boisterous role in the South China Sea, claiming a massive sphere of territory that includes some of the world’s most trafficked shipping lanes and overlaps with claims of a half-dozen other countries. For Japan, the dispute with China focuses on a chain of remote islands in the East China Sea known to Japanese as the Senkaku and to Chinese as the Diaoyu, several of which Japan’s central government purchased in September after previously renting.
“What is important first and foremost,” Abe said, “is to make [China] realize that they would not be able to change the rules or take away somebody’s territorial water or territory by coercion or intimidation.”
Abe’s assessment of China sounds like a version of the one that experts in Beijing give of Japan, which they say has shifted to the right on foreign policy and security issues in a bid to recover clout and pride lost during two decades of economic stagnation. Abe’s criticism of Chinese education is also notable because, during his first stint as prime minister six years ago, he revised a law to encourage a more patriotic curriculum in Japan’s classrooms.
Pragmatic and popular
Abe became prime minister for a second time in December, after making a string of far-right campaign pledges to revise Japan’s pacifist constitution and loosen certain restrictions on the armed forces. He also promised to be tougher on China than the previous government, the deeply unpopular and moderate Democratic Party of Japan, which was booted from office.
But two months into his term, Abe looks more like a pragmatist than a strident nationalist, focusing mainly on a new, and so far successful, economic policy to weaken the yen and spur inflation. His latest popularity rating is 71 percent, according to the Yomiuri newspaper, a stunning mark in a nation that has cycled through six consecutive one-year leaders.
“I have succeeded already in changing the general mood and atmosphere that was prevalent in Japan,” Abe said.
The question is whether Abe will change course and begin pushing for his controversial right-wing hobbyhorses after July parliamentary elections that could help his Liberal Democratic Party build an overwhelming majority and leave Abe emboldened. One concern is that Abe could revise earlier government apologies for atrocities committed by Japan’s World War II-era military. Abe, in the interview, said he would someday like to make a “future-oriented” statement aimed at Japan’s neighbors, but he did not elaborate on what its message would be.
Beijing has responded to Japan’s nationalization of the Senkaku Islands by sending surveillance ships and aircraft into Japanese territory, drawing Japan into a risky showdown in which the neighbors chase each other around the waters and airspace of uninhabited rocky outcroppings. Any armed conflict could draw in the United States, which is treaty-bound to protect Japan.
The 35-year shift
While historical animosities are at the root of Japan’s territorial dispute with China, the maritime conflict is relatively new. During the interview, Abe portrayed China’s actions as part of a 35-year shift that began when the Communist Party opened its once-controlled economy. China’s government has since had to abandon the hope of nationwide economic equality — “one of its pillars of legitimacy,” Abe said — forcing it to create “some different pillars,” including rapid economic growth and patriotism.
“What is unfortunate, however,” Abe added, “is that in the case of China, teaching patriotism [is equivalent to] teaching anti-Japanese sentiment. In other words, their education policy of teaching patriotism has become even more pronounced as they started the reform and opening policy.”
Abe said China’s tactics at sea are yielding “strong support” domestically. Those tactics, some analysts say, also could prove financially lucrative if China gains control of shipping lanes and access to rich fishing territory, and extracts hydrocarbon reserves.
But Abe warned that China’s sparring with its neighbors could backfire, potentially undermining trade partnerships and causing skittishness among foreign investors.
“Such behavior is going to have an effect on their economic activity at the end of the day,” he said, “because it will lead to losing the confidence of the international community, which will result in less investments in China. I believe it is fully possible to have China to change their policy once they gain that recognition.”
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-20 22:08
俺说的是首先要先搞好大环境，即在外交政策上作出调整，对日本民众希望日本成为正常国家的意愿进行有条件 ...
这个，就看问题怎样说了。你要说这个问题是“日本要做正常国家”，那它的要求看来就很正当，你要说这个问题是“日本要推翻雅尔塔体系“，那....
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 09:16
@萨苏
萨大，我觉得这就是同一个问题的两种表达，其实质就是日本要摆脱其二战“战败国”的地位。但第二 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-22 11:38
但对于一个国家来说，这种处罚性的约束，应该有个时限，就象对一个罪犯判刑，应该有个期限。罪犯的期限是 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-22 11:38
但对于一个国家来说，这种处罚性的约束，应该有个时限，就象对一个罪犯判刑，应该有个期限。罪犯的期限是 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 09:16
@萨苏
萨大，我觉得这就是同一个问题的两种表达，其实质就是日本要摆脱其二战“战败国”的地位。但第二 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 14:18
当时未上战场的日本人依然是那个体制下的，即使没有上战场，也是那个集体内的人，仍然需要为那个 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 09:16
@萨苏
萨大，我觉得这就是同一个问题的两种表达，其实质就是日本要摆脱其二战“战败国”的地位。但第二 ...
四处张望 发表于 2013-2-22 16:07
为何德国和日本情况有所不同？
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 17:05
俺试着用群体意识概念来解构一下日德两国为啥在承认战争罪行上产生差异吧。
俺觉得，美国对 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-22 16:17
在国际法上，承担责任的主体是政府，而不是哪个民族或个人，否则就是干涉内政。作为日本政府，始终是一个 ...
不打不相识 发表于 2013-2-22 17:01
河蚌兄，我们该以直报怨，我们做了太多以德报怨的乡愿蠢事，得了一时的喝彩，时移世易，恩义烟消云散。比 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 17:19
问题就在于，你是要解决问题，而不是去顶牛是吧。
不要把一些书面的东西认为是国际政治的真理，希拉里大 ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-22 17:36
为什么要把中日关系恶化的原因推到中国方面？人人都希望解决问题而不是发生冲突，可是一方的让步是否就能 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 21:53
首先，让中国改变不是把恶化的责任推给中方。让中国改变就是把责任推给中方，这算是什么逻辑？中日关系， ...
西楼客 发表于 2013-2-22 22:23
现在的情况是日方根本就无法改变，那个弱势政府弱势国家，根本也没有能力改变，所以，才要中国改变。
为 ...
河蚌 发表于 2013-2-22 22:46
什么叫“找出种种理由来开脱”，真是一顶又一顶的大帽子扣过来，但却不见有任何的实质的分析。我觉得你应 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-25 23:14
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
有句流行话叫”帅得惊动了党“，这一次日本在钓鱼岛的做法，可说是”错 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-2-28 01:07
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
2012年12月，日本民主党在大选中惨败，黯然告别执政党宝座。随后，下台 ...
萨苏 发表于 2013-3-4 01:45
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野田在钓鱼岛问题上的被动，带来了许多啼笑皆非的事情。
萨苏 发表于 2013-3-4 01:45
【爱吱声论坛专用文档，谢绝转载】
野田在钓鱼岛问题上的被动，带来了许多啼笑皆非的事情。
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