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作者: 晨枫 时间: 2025-1-3 12:22
标题: 卡特也有年轻的时候
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卡特海军学院毕业时

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作为海军上尉在潜艇上

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1977年和美国核潜艇之父里科弗海军上将在视察“洛杉矶”号核潜艇。两人早就认识，当年里科弗坚持亲自面试每一个核潜艇军官，卡特就是受到面试的人之一

作者: 征久仁 时间: 2025-1-4 05:57
1949年卡特在青岛，1979年卡特跟邓小平谈起这事，旁边翻译是冀朝著，这张照片里还有尼克松。

后来卡特接受放疗和PD-1联合治疗，成功活到了100岁。

作者: 大哈瑞 时间: 2025-1-4 08:08
卡特1946年毕业于马里兰州的安那波利斯海军学院。1949年解放军根据毛主席命令威胁性攻击青岛时卡特正好也在青岛。那次解放军没有与美军交战，因为解放军根据情报得知国军已经决定撤退，只把国军撵走了事，不做歼灭。毛主席电报指示不许打美军。5月4日，战役发起。美军全部登船待命。5月18日美军撤离青岛。

当时包围青岛的是粟裕的华野而非邓小平的中野。卡特总统会见邓之前要看国务院给他准备的中国国情摘要。估计美国国务院的人搞不清华野中野，把青岛安到邓头上了。卡特搞不清细节也不是大事。他与邓私交很好。

作者: 晨枫 时间: 2025-1-4 08:24

征久仁发表于 2025-1-3 15:57
1949年卡特在青岛，1979年卡特跟邓小平谈起这事，旁边翻译是冀朝著，这张照片里还有尼克松。

这是卡特当总统、邓小平访美的时候？尼克松只是请来的客人？

作者: 晨枫 时间: 2025-1-4 08:26

大哈瑞发表于 2025-1-3 18:08
卡特1946年毕业于马里兰州的安那波利斯海军学院。1949年解放军根据毛主席命令威胁性攻击青岛时卡特正好也在 ...

那是中美蜜月期。

不知道卡特后来看到特朗普1.0后中美对抗加剧有何想法？邓小平要是活着，看到现在中美对抗的底气也会感慨。

作者: 征久仁 时间: 2025-1-5 07:11

晨枫发表于 2025-1-4 08:24
这是卡特当总统、邓小平访美的时候？尼克松只是请来的客人？

是的，1979年。尼克松是客人。

作者: 征久仁 时间: 2025-1-5 07:11

大哈瑞发表于 2025-1-4 08:08
卡特1946年毕业于马里兰州的安那波利斯海军学院。1949年解放军根据毛主席命令威胁性攻击青岛时卡特正好也在 ...

你补充的对。

作者: 大哈瑞 时间: 2025-1-8 09:45

晨枫发表于 2025-1-3 19:26
那是中美蜜月期。

不知道卡特后来看到特朗普1.0后中美对抗加剧有何想法？邓小平要是活着，看到现在中美 ...

卡特总统在2019年用明确的语言明确告诉特朗普他对美中关系的看法。自1979年美中建交以来，中国没有卷入过任何战争，把钱花在了建设上。而美国是历史上最爱打仗的国家，浪费了三千亿美元在军费上。

卡特总统的睿智和远见是对美中关系最具建设性的政治遗产。

President Trump Called Former President Jimmy Carter To Talk About China

April 15, 2019 1:52 PM ET
From WABE
By Emma Hurt

President Trump called former President Jimmy Carter for the first time this weekend.

Carter revealed that news during his regular Sunday school lesson at his home church, Maranatha Baptist Church in Plains, Georgia, on Sunday morning.

Earlier this year, Carter sent Trump a letter with some advice about managing the U.S.-China relationship. Carter oversaw the normalization of diplomatic relations between the two countries 40 years ago.

On Saturday evening, Trump called Carter to talk about it. It was the first time they'd spoken, Carter said. He said Trump told him that he is particularly concerned about how China is "getting ahead of us."

Carter said he agreed with Trump on this issue.

"And do you know why?" Carter said. "I normalized diplomatic relations with China in 1979. Since 1979, do you know how many times China has been at war with anybody? None. And we have stayed at war," he said. (China and Vietnam actually fought a brief border war in early 1979, weeks after U.S. relations with China were normalized.)

Carter said the United States is "the most warlike nation in the history of the world" due to a desire to impose American values on other countries, and he suggested that China is investing its resources into projects such as high-speed railroads instead of defense spending.

"How many miles of high-speed railroad do we have in this country?"

Zero, the congregation answered.

"We have wasted, I think, $3 trillion," Carter said, referring to American military spending. "China has not wasted a single penny on war, and that's why they're ahead of us. In almost every way.

"And I think the difference is if you take $3 trillion and put it in American infrastructure, you'd probably have $2 trillion left over. We'd have high-speed railroad. We'd have bridges that aren't collapsing. We'd have roads that are maintained properly. Our education system would be as good as that of, say, South Korea or Hong Kong.

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"I wasn't comparing my country adversely to China," Carter qualified. "I was just pointing that out because I happened to get a phone call last night."

The former president said he understands that Trump is worried about China surpassing the U.S. as the world's top economic superpower.

"I don't really fear that time, but it bothers President Trump, and I don't know why. I'm not criticizing him — this morning," Carter said to laughs from the audience.

作者: 晨枫 时间: 2025-1-8 10:04

大哈瑞发表于 2025-1-7 19:45
卡特总统在2019年用明确的语言明确告诉特朗普他对美中关系的看法。自1979年美中建交以来，中国没有卷入过 ...

如果伊朗人质营救成功，卡特连任，后来的美国历史会是什么样？

里根没有当选，然后呢？

作者: 大哈瑞 时间: 2025-1-8 10:33

晨枫发表于 2025-1-7 21:04
如果伊朗人质营救成功，卡特连任，后来的美国历史会是什么样？

里根没有当选，然后呢？ ...

中东土豪们用石油武器造成美国严重的通货膨胀，断了卡特的连任梦，也造就了继任总统们加紧挑拨穆斯林国家之间的关系和中东长期的战乱，延续至今，无解。凡是在那里趟过浑水的有一个算一个没有不焦头烂额的，所以中国最好别急着往里掺和，刷什么存在感。

作者: 史节 时间: 2025-1-8 12:38

大哈瑞发表于 2025-1-8 10:33
中东土豪们用石油武器造成美国严重的通货膨胀，断了卡特的连任梦，也造就了继任总统们加紧挑拨穆斯林国家 ...

从目前看，中国压根不想往那里面掺合，中国考虑的方向还是南下。

中东的问题是本来一个民族变成二十几个国家，本来有机会成为统一的多民族国家变了伊斯兰世界的多国家民族，内在纷争就足以抵消合力，殖民主义的招数真是的高超。
现在有点像我们军阀混战的时期被冻结了，本来起码可以打出一个军头出来，但插进来一个以色列，超级大国在里面顺势搅浑水。
但这种历史趋势应该是会继续的，就是权力逐层瓦解，皇帝没了，有袁大头，袁大头没了军阀混战，各省自立，最后若干个或者一个强力政权整合起来。我觉得还没瓦解到地方，也就是还有的乱。

如果美国霸权结束，退出中东，那不是中东纷乱的介绍，而是新赛季吃鸡大赛的发令枪。

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