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作者: MacArthur    时间: 2022-3-25 13:01
标题: 宝峰对讲机里的Makariv之战
本帖最后由 MacArthur 于 2022-3-25 09:45 编辑 7 L3 W( U/ e- q, a7 Q- x1 m9 d+ @

- T% p* T# f4 E4 T8 Y7 W乌克兰战争爆发以来,俄军以大临小,如泰山压顶。所有人都觉得乌克兰这次悬了,没想到“闪电战”打了一个月,东线北线仍然在郊外开野营大趴,大家眼镜掉了一地。俄军之掉链子是方方面面的。单说在军用通讯方面,从战斗爆发伊始,业余无线电爱好者(HAM Radio)就全时关注着电磁领空里的动静。慢慢地大家都觉着不对劲了 - 为啥公共未加密频道里会充斥着各种战术呼叫?俄军难道没有他们自己的军用频道和加密通讯么?
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等乌克兰人公开了被缴获的俄军装备后,真相迅速大白 -- 被缴获装备里多次出现一款福建宝峰生产的“宝峰”牌UV-82HP对讲机。# \# x: v7 t* {: q) p) X  K) X. i
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淘宝¥138,新人首单立减十元
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3 Z0 D& l9 C3 ?, R& Q' G' H) S使用军语、加密通讯,这都是最基本的军事常识。拜俄军令人大跌眼镜的“非专业”表现,全世界火腿爱好者得以在电磁空间里实时聆听侵乌之战的实况播放 =》见神牛日志之“乌克兰战况宝峰直播
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' i' D* R( F3 A0 H这些“实时播报”其实就是各路火腿爱好者们把公开频道里听到的转录一下挂到网络上。纽约时报记者Christian Triebert带领的视频调查组,通过汇总所有这些火腿爱好者的录音、翻译,并结合社交媒体上能搜集到的录像,大概其推断出了俄军在二月二十七日通过Makariv企图打通E40高速公路推进的部分过程。这段录像已发布于NYTimes的网站,可以戳这里观看4 K/ b9 F7 f3 k  P# Q5 p

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) G8 m" @9 J8 K  u/ Z! |Makariv是基辅以西40公里的一个小镇,乌克兰E-40高速公路经小镇向东不出一个小时即可进入市区。
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这是战前的样子,很普通的一个东欧小镇,沐浴在阳光下: e6 c% @2 B- [3 o: \' \9 d

9 b6 r& }7 {+ L$ B; N那么Triebert工作组是怎么确认听到的radio呼叫都是哪儿跟哪儿呢?他们根据radio里的谈话,再结合录像进行“geo-locating” - 根据视频中出现的地物地标,在Google Earth里还原其位置和拍摄角度。当然这个并不能保证100%准确,因为并不是所有录像里都能找到明显的地物地标。# [+ X/ P9 r. K& {% o* {

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! ~' ^7 F1 |% ?6 z# Z比方说这段Radio呼叫就是关于Makariv东南Motyzhyn小村战斗,呼号“YUG-95”单位报告撤出战斗,损失一台MT-LB
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; E  P8 L, V  Q9 k4 Z, q4 d然后他们发现Makariv市长在Telegram上发了一条消息“我们的人正在Motyzhyn附近痛击敌人纵队”,而录像当中出现当日经过小镇的一台MT-LB,而且后来路边被抛弃的车辆中间的确就有一台MT-LB装甲车(完整录像)。
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Motyzhyn小镇战斗只是例子之一。工作组尽量把能听到的地名从录像中一一确认,并和俄军行动时间对照吻合上。他们这段录像里提到的地名有:1 y* c2 o" n$ n) ^$ z
- Makariv (Макарів)
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% `% Q# y, X5 X# a8 U7 c  h) u# ~二月二十七日上午,当地居民发现带“V”字标记的战车陆续经过Borodianka到Lypivka再到Makariv
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不久无线电里就传来俄军的战况更新,他们肆无忌惮地在公开频道谈论战况,比方说这俩就在声称用两发Strela导弹击落一架(乌克兰)直升机。
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A: Has the BMP moved yet? Over
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A: Who the fuck am I?!

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再比如这段谈话里,俄军反复要求在“property” (хозяйство) (很可能指的是俄军自己的装备)撤出之后对全居民区进行火力覆盖 -- 那些说俄军打得“克制”的可以休矣
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当地居民反映:过路俄军数次无故向民居开枪,这栋民居则直接被俄军坦克炮轰起火。这家人幸亏提前躲到Lypivka( U# B  p8 z; o) R; a- j; [

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7 w: h( {1 Q4 n4 V6 Q  e这段监控录像拍下的镜头则更冷血 -- 俄军一辆BMP-2战车在行径Makariv时无故向过路平民车辆开火。车内一对老夫妇当场丧命。(完整录像( v' @/ y9 o8 O8 C' N4 L

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) \. ]/ g1 U& w8 `1 q9 r$ I+ y俄军当时还看到了天上似乎有台无人机 -- 当天晚些时候网上出现一段TB-2作战录像,经过geo-locating可以确认正是在Makariv地区
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第二天乌克兰士兵发布来照片和录像,能看到俄军丢弃的雷达车,BUK导弹,MT-LB装甲车和自行火炮。3 `0 m& ?& T. p9 h( [. Y3 a' g
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这段对话里则可以看到俄军通讯失效,前方呼叫空中支援30分钟后仍然迟迟未见,气得破口大骂:“You fucking forgot!”! J. \  y4 l, ^) m% @/ m+ v
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“I urgently need refueling, water, and food.”
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( C* P' z; @& x乌克兰人三月二十二日宣布已经把俄军从Makariv地区驱逐出去。但是他们的家园已经变成了这个样子。
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作者: 法乎其上    时间: 2022-3-25 14:47
乌克兰和西媒应该持续更新和纠正联合国发布的平民伤亡数字,并强烈谴责联合国。
* {8 S2 T( Z* n2 Q, {, `6 Y6 Z0 c理由很简单:联合国发布的数字才1000左右,而不克制的军队是不可能打出这个数字的。
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西方人的话,必须坚持用头脑才能应对。
作者: togo    时间: 2022-3-25 15:49
Between 24 February and 15 March, the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) recorded 1,900 civilian casualties – with 726 people killed, including 52 children – mostly caused by explosive weapons in populated areas.  
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感谢王师的克制,才杀死了这么少的平民
作者: 小米粒    时间: 2022-3-25 17:20
本帖最后由 小米粒 于 2022-3-25 17:39 编辑 - u0 L3 H. E  H0 \
法乎其上 发表于 2022-3-25 14:47, V9 B: f; q+ v
乌克兰和西媒应该持续更新和纠正联合国发布的平民伤亡数字,并强烈谴责联合国。; }- @, L9 t4 _) l5 j
理由很简单:联合国发布的 ...
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他发的大多早就看过了。
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30多年的老旧装备,摩托时间及澡盆曲线,不要命强行军不抛锚难道是天顶星技术。
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切莫上美国为首西方传媒流氓说法,只能美帝王师炸南斯拉夫楼塌瓦碎,炸阿富汗的医院。你俄罗斯就不能炸。
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觉得网虫截图集挺好
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https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4 ... om=old_pc_videoshow
作者: 包子    时间: 2022-3-25 17:55
前两天看战争视频,乌克兰士兵武器很渣但用的是摩托罗拉的数字电台。
作者: 晨枫    时间: 2022-3-25 21:44
再比如这段谈话里,俄军反复要求在“property” (хозяйство) (很可能指的是俄军自己的装备)撤出之后对全居民区进行火力覆盖 -- 那些说俄军打得“克制”的可以休矣

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俄军为什么撤出?不会是因为村里的茶水和饼干都空了,继续呆下去无聊了吧?
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俄军遭遇激烈抵抗,损失惨重,这段是一个丧魂落魄的俄军在呼叫。
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9 V* u! x1 }. l$ D2 k# y那些只知道指责俄军“不克制”的可以休矣!
作者: MacArthur    时间: 2022-3-25 22:15
包子 发表于 2022-3-25 04:55
7 b! i, i, l# k) `) L" D7 z前两天看战争视频,乌克兰士兵武器很渣但用的是摩托罗拉的数字电台。
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俄军缴获的乌军战术电台
作者: 常挨揍    时间: 2022-3-25 22:25
togo 发表于 2022-3-25 15:49
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大毛自己军人牺牲都有1300+了,这个应该还没算顿巴斯民兵。
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作者: 被明月兮佩宝璐    时间: 2022-3-25 22:30
大毛揍二毛可以得到西方媒体的全方位无死角7/24关注。而灯塔爆揍南斯拉夫,伊拉克,阿富汗,叙利亚,也门,利比亚等等的时候,好像西方领导的世界舆论并没有当回事。' v, M0 J8 y' y, t( O, b1 t
这种现象背后核心就两个,一,西方字典里“人”这个字的意思不是广义的。二,西方社会普遍认同强者天然正义。我比你强,所以我一定正确,你必须听我的。
作者: 晨枫    时间: 2022-3-25 22:57
被明月兮佩宝璐 发表于 2022-3-25 08:30. g9 @. \9 _1 V2 R- b: ~
大毛揍二毛可以得到西方媒体的全方位无死角7/24关注。而灯塔爆揍南斯拉夫,伊拉克,阿富汗,叙利亚,也门, ...
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不是强者代表正义,而是“我”代表正义。很多时候西方正好就是强者,但在供应链问题上,西方不是强者了,依然“一身正义”。
作者: 被明月兮佩宝璐    时间: 2022-3-25 23:20
晨枫 发表于 2022-3-25 22:57
" k  I- F7 o+ V- D9 I# s2 k不是强者代表正义,而是“我”代表正义。很多时候西方正好就是强者,但在供应链问题上,西方不是强者了, ...
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说中国供应链世界最强,可在西方大众眼里,“这不是真的”。不然怎么他们总掐中国脖子,而中国不反击呢?过去500年的西方霸权,养成了当今的迷之自信。没有一场萨尔浒,西方是不会从骨子里认为自己确实不行了。
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鳖为西方看边,忠顺有年。被人插管,还要努力维持世界秩序。这种畸形存在,直到天降猛男不接受土鳖投降的懂王出现,才有了变化。稀宗上任,两边又开始腚力了。萨尔浒,还是要等懂王回归先。
作者: togo    时间: 2022-3-25 23:38
常挨揍 发表于 2022-3-25 06:25; z4 W; x/ ~& I. t
大毛自己军人牺牲都有1300+了,这个应该还没算顿巴斯民兵。
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请发一下数据来源 collateral damage (civilian casualties) 10 times larger than US military soilders casualties
作者: MacArthur    时间: 2022-3-25 23:47
包子 发表于 2022-3-25 04:552 m  F5 F& Y0 v% s+ h
前两天看战争视频,乌克兰士兵武器很渣但用的是摩托罗拉的数字电台。

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这是2015年五月在乌克兰YAVORIV,王师173空降旅的人员正在向乌克兰国民警卫队3029团介绍如何使用Harris RF 7800V战术手台。
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乌克兰人很高兴,“我们之前在反恐作战中只有民用手台,” JO Dmitry Burskiy说,“现在能够通过加密频道联系绝对有助于我们的行动。”3 f( Y1 @/ q% J% ]# d& ?: y, F

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作者: ltpub    时间: 2022-3-26 00:41
MacArthur 发表于 2022-3-25 22:15& F; N1 |0 M4 z+ ]- A0 b9 P
俄军缴获的乌军战术电台
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这才是军用设备该有的样子
作者: 旺旺的考拉熊    时间: 2022-3-26 00:43
晨枫 发表于 2022-3-25 21:44
3 V8 v  @( S/ o* h# ]& Y. ^俄军为什么撤出?不会是因为村里的茶水和饼干都空了,继续呆下去无聊了吧?

. h! N! \3 _, n克制不克制的不说,俄军这次表现很差是真的,周一乌克兰拒绝了交出Mariupol的最后通牒,现在也没怎样,打了一个月,一个重大战果也没有。莫不是俄罗斯全面进攻弄了一堆制裁只是为了拿到东部Luhansk和donetsk吧。不推翻乌克兰现政府,根本就不可能达成啥乌克兰非军事化和中立化,只是获得了一个血海深仇而已。
作者: MacArthur    时间: 2022-3-26 00:54
ltpub 发表于 2022-3-25 11:41
1 X7 T2 f9 r5 i/ X这才是军用设备该有的样子
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从这一点上看,乌克兰军队“北约化”程度已经很深了,至少在指挥通讯网络方面,跟北约无缝接轨不成问题
作者: 晨枫    时间: 2022-3-26 00:54
旺旺的考拉熊 发表于 2022-3-25 10:432 f( z) U) }5 }  i; b
克制不克制的不说,俄军这次表现很差是真的,周一乌克兰拒绝了交出Mariupol的最后通牒,现在也没怎样,打 ...

6 \" t3 l: j: q俄军进展低于预期,这是肯定的。现在就看普京是否达到他战前所说的目的了。  y; K4 B' h; G* }7 a( A
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马里乌波尔据说战斗进入收尾了,但真假只有等可确认的战报了。
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6 A& ?+ M) Q' [+ H, H% X9 O光看乌克兰战报的话,俄军在基辅前线都被打退了呢,接下去就该进攻莫斯科了。
作者: 旺旺的考拉熊    时间: 2022-3-26 01:22
晨枫 发表于 2022-3-26 00:54
3 n1 Q% U/ c4 T) J6 x5 m俄军进展低于预期,这是肯定的。现在就看普京是否达到他战前所说的目的了。
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4 |9 ^# B. w+ Q2 V+ c马里乌波尔据说战斗进入收尾 ...
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所以我才关切马里乌波尔,关切一切无法虚报的重大战果。乌克兰的战报比架空小说还架空。但是俄罗斯可是以强凌弱,而且基本可以说是不宣而战,打成这个样子,确实是比纸老虎还纸老虎。很多人说普京是希特勒,就这个战果来看,希特勒可是比普京强多了
作者: 过河卒    时间: 2022-3-26 03:05
法乎其上 发表于 2022-3-25 14:47
* g+ W: R! z: {/ `乌克兰和西媒应该持续更新和纠正联合国发布的平民伤亡数字,并强烈谴责联合国。
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不着急,联合国发布的数字以后会涨上去的。
作者: 法乎其上    时间: 2022-3-26 03:33
以西煤和乌克兰的撩性现在就不可能容忍数字被低报的了
作者: 过河卒    时间: 2022-3-26 03:55
晨枫 发表于 2022-3-26 00:54$ ?/ {; w; Q9 Z: Y0 K3 U% H
俄军进展低于预期,这是肯定的。现在就看普京是否达到他战前所说的目的了。% U; l+ D4 j$ y  h7 R

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1 s* E* o& Z- I4 |3 |* Z( U" y你敢说俄军进展低于预期。 俄总参不同意。
/ K) b- {8 k& U) f, B+ J$ x7 S" u这个是俄国防部的今天新闻发布会的官宣,但在美国的看不到。因为被美国墙了,得用Tor 翻墙才能看:+ S7 n$ e4 v- i& R8 d& s" x6 Z

1 C1 a! [5 r. o# J# fhttps://eng.mil.ru/en/special_op ... ?id=12414735@egNews
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大意就是special operation 的目的从来就不是占领基辅, 人家只是要帮助Lugansk and Donetsk。你们想多了。
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弄不好俄军也许过几天就“转进”、这个仗打得太有喜剧感。一群洗地人士们被剧情天天涮。6 {9 L7 ~8 C6 P0 |/ g6 S% Y( ?
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这个某大国对新闻发布会的报道:
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俄国防部表示,乌克兰军队的战斗力被显著削弱,使得俄方能将主要精力聚焦在主要目标,即控制顿巴斯地区上。俄国防部表示,将避免平民不必要的伤亡作为第一要务,军事基础设施和武器装备被高精度武器精准摧毁。
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此外,俄国防部还表示,俄军方曾截获到一封绝密电报,其中附有乌克兰国民近卫军指挥官巴兰于1月22日发布的秘密命令,计划在顿巴斯地区准备发动进攻,准备工作计划在2月28日前完成,以便在3月开始战斗任务。  p, b2 y- ^1 ]! x

$ J+ {; f$ j9 L4 H$ r7 V" K俄国防部还发布了行动相关战报,截至目前,俄军方此次军事行动已经几乎完全摧毁了乌克兰的空军力量和防空力量,乌克兰的海军也不复存在。此外乌克兰军队有组织的储备也几乎归零。一个月内,乌克兰军队的人员损失约为3万,其中1.4万人死亡,1.6万人受伤。目前,顿巴斯地区武装已控制卢甘斯克93%的区域和顿涅茨克54%的区域。在乌克兰战区内共有127座桥梁被毁,均为乌军所为,目的是为了延缓进攻。乌克兰军队的导弹和弹药、燃料和食品的供应几乎完全停止。但在特别军事行动中,俄方共有1351人阵亡,3825人受伤。0 V9 S, V/ c, e) ~! Q$ z

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作者: 过河卒    时间: 2022-3-26 04:11
过河卒 发表于 2022-3-26 03:55
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对于懒得翻美国墙且懂英文的,我把俄国防部的今天新闻发布会的官宣搬过来:. ^6 ?( Y2 e# }; w) v0 G
https://eng.mil.ru/en/special_op ... ?id=12414735@egNews
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Speech of the Head of the Main Operational Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy4 `, R9 `# B. y

0 d0 G& y  J9 N* TIn accordance with the decision of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief since February 24 this year. The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are conducting a special military operation.4 c) _/ |) f7 M

' a/ _! ^$ K% @Its main goal is to provide assistance to the people of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics, who have been subjected to genocide by the Kiev regime for 8 years.9 H- {8 Z# U3 ~8 [4 A& [
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It was impossible to achieve this goal by political means. Kiev has publicly refused to implement the Minsk agreements. The Ukrainian leadership twice in 2014 and 2015 tried to solve the so-called Donbass problem by military means, was defeated, but did not change its plans on resolving conflict by force in the East of the country. According to reliable data, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were completing the preparation of a military operation to take control of the territory of the people's republics.
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4 H1 D4 |- S4 s& fIn these conditions, it was possible to help the Donetsk and Lugansk republics only by providing them with military assistance. Which Russia has done.
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The first is to limit the territory to only the DPR and the LPR within the administrative borders of the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, which is enshrined in the constitutions of the republics. But then we would be faced with constant feeding by the Ukrainian authorities of the grouping involved in the so-called joint force operation.
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Therefore, the second option was chosen, which provides for actions throughout the territory of Ukraine with the implementation of measures for its demilitarization and denazification.+ O) ?; z- Y/ q) Y! Q# l* I
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The course of the operation confirmed the validity of this decision.( B; K8 S' U6 h0 H( Y! H

; Q% L! G# |4 B5 }5 cIt is conducted by the General Staff in strict accordance with the approved plan.2 K) i6 E" P% p8 ?. z) [) I, g
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The tasks are carried out taking into account minimizing losses among personnel and minimizing damage to civilians.
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With the beginning of a special military operation, air supremacy was won during the first two days.# U, C1 c# _8 a! ]% B5 a+ m& D

+ C: t- U5 I- q. S; |Offensive actions of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation are carried out in various directions.
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. j% i8 m5 W1 U& T- C6 ?As a result, Russian troops blocked Kiev, Kharkov, Chernigov, Sumy and Nikolaev. Kherson and most of the Zaporozhye region are under full control.
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6 t) a5 K, W% B; j# {! B/ M$ DThe public and individual experts are wondering what we are doing in the area of blocked Ukrainian cities.
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& }. l7 i% R( e' E- U5 m' lThese actions are carried out with the aim of causing such damage to military infrastructure, equipment, personnel of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the results of which allow not only to shackle their forces and do not give them the opportunity to strengthen their grouping in the Donbass, but also will not allow them to do so until the Russian army completely liberates the territories of the DPR and LPR.
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* g# ^1 ~+ |. e: n5 R# F; wInitially, we did not plan to storm them in order to prevent destruction and minimize losses among personnel and civilians.
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And although we do not rule out such a possibility, however, as individual groups complete their tasks, and they are being solved successfully, our forces and means will concentrate on the main thing – the complete liberation of Donbass.
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Significant territories of the Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics have also been liberated. The people's militia has taken control of 276 settlements that were previously under the control of the Ukrainian army and the national battalions.
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Demilitarization of Ukraine is achieved both by high-precision strikes on military infrastructure facilities, locations of formations and military units, airfields, control points, arsenals and warehouses of weapons and military equipment, and by the actions of troops to defeat opposing enemy grouppings.5 o; k, y6 I+ r- f& `  L
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Currently, the Ukrainian air forces and the air defence system have been almost completely destroyed. The naval forces of the country ceased to exist.3 x" V$ K+ Q( y

9 B4 U: v7 l* J$ n5 e16 main military airfields were defeated, from which combat sorties of the AFU aviation were carried out. 39 storage bases and arsenals were destroyed, which contained up to 70% of all stocks of military equipment, materiel and fuel, as well as more than 1 million 54 thousand tons of ammunition.
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All 24 formations of the Land Forces that existed before the start of the operation suffered significant losses. Ukraine has no organized reserves left.
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Losses are replenished at the expense of mobilized persons and personnel of the territorial defence forces who do not have the necessary training, which increases the risk of large losses.
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At the time of the start of the special military operation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine, together with the National Guard, numbered 260 thousand 200 servicemen. During the month of hostilities, their losses amounted to about 30 thousand people, including more than 14 thousand - irretrievable and about 16 thousand - sanitary.
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Of the 2,416 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles that were in combat on February 24, 1,587 units were destroyed; 636 units out of 1,509 field artillery guns and mortars; 163 out of 535 MLRS; 112 out of 152 aircraft, 75 out of 149 helicopters; 36 Bayraktar TB2 UAVs - 35;1 r% m/ J& u. a

3 J) ~" s& H5 `& Z180 out of 148 S-300 and Buk M1 air defence systems; 300 out of 117 radars for various purposes.
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! O  o0 g( k: D; B0 J+ ^The AFU continue to use high-powered weapons indiscriminately against towns in Donbass. An example of this is the strikes by the Tochka-U missile system on the civilian population of Donetsk and Makeyevka.
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In this regard, they are the primary targets.0 Y  Q# J2 w8 T6 B3 p: Y% v  {
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As of today, 7 Tochka-U launchers have been destroyed, and 85% of missiles are in arsenals and in the air. This significantly limited Ukraine's capabilities for their combat use.4 V! c+ g1 b' K* G4 R6 }
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Since the beginning of hostilities, the Western countries have supplied the Kiev regime with 109 field artillery guns, 3,800 anti-tank weapons, including Javelin, Milan, Konkurs, NLAW ATGM, M-72, Panzerfaust-3, 897 Stinger and Igla MANPADS.$ _6 m* X0 I9 {/ T

# h% ?$ P3 l5 L4 H1 PWe consider it a vast mistake for Western countries to supply weapons to Kiev. This delays the conflict, increases the number of victims and will not be able to influence the outcome of the operation.+ r2 s7 K0 C$ F' E' @4 K3 c
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The real purpose of such supplies is not to support Ukraine, but to drag it into a long-term military conflict "to the last Ukrainian.") M: T& a+ I- j+ M0 c+ s7 y

% m  W3 Q, J3 ]2 P$ mWe are closely monitoring the statements of the military and political leadership of individual countries about their intention to supply aircraft and air defence systems to Ukraine. In case of implementation– we will not leave it without attention.+ ~0 g0 |7 p6 x/ F1 B$ y: \+ ?

0 }0 L: n& L- L: D3 ~# k2 M6 m1 KWe also hear assurances from NATO leaders about non-interference in the conflict. At the same time, some member states of the North Atlantic Alliance propose to close the airspace over Ukraine. I would like to draw your attention to the fact that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will immediately respond accordingly to such attempts.
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At the moment, 30 key enterprises of the military-industrial complex have been hit by cruise missiles X-101, Kalibr, Iskander, and the Kinzhal aviation complex, which carried out repairs of 68% of weapons and equipment disabled during combat operations.
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9 W. K( @" V  i1 e- P+ _; _' f  uRussian modern weaponry has proven to be highly accurate, reliable and capable of operational use.
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* V2 M6 u# q4 l. Q! }I would like to emphasize that the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation do not strike at civilian infrastructure facilities, including the destruction of bridges across rivers.$ I3 n* z! M( b' ?6 R  n- x

2 A* q  s! O6 W9 K1 P127 bridges were destroyed in the area of military operations. All of them were blown up by Ukrainian nationalists in order to deter the advance of our troops.
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Another example of recklessness is the mining of approaches to the ports of Odessa, Ochakov, Chernomorsk and Yuzhny, where over 400 anchor mines of obsolete types are installed.6 H/ ]6 Q) Q7 y: z1 j8 B- Y

. M4 K# u) t  eAt least 10 mines have broken anchor and are drifting in the western part of the Black Sea, which poses a real threat to warships and civilian vessels.
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6 F! ~3 Y5 O1 m& o6 u) kThe rampant crime, looting and marauding and civilian deaths have been caused by the Ukrainian regime's massive uncontrolled distribution of tens of thousands of small arms to the civilian population, including to criminals released from prisons. The situation will only get worse in the future.  ~7 }0 l9 k- M8 g" P

, E6 H$ \" f' W7 u* nThe course of hostilities, the testimonies of civilians who left the blockaded settlements and captured Ukrainian servicemen show that today the AFU's ability to resist is based on fear of reprisals by neo-Nazis. Their representatives are embedded in all military units.  j. {. y% L7 d% _1 {' Z1 h

. [9 v* f; P5 h6 {$ d8 {0 [7 l) {The mainstay of the Kiev regime are nationalist formations such as Azov, Aidar, Right Sector and others recognized in Russia as terrorist organizations. In Mariupol alone, they include more than 7 thousand militants who are fighting under the guise of civilians, using them as a "human shield".
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The militants of the Azov battalion drive women and children out of the basements, threatening them with weapons, and send them towards the advancing units of the DPR in order to hinder the advance of the people's militia. This has become a common practice for them.! ]- M( C- j7 k! Q2 \
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The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, on the contrary, seek to avoid unnecessary losses. Before the start of the offensive, the AFU units are invited to leave the combat area and move along with equipment and weapons to the point of permanent deployment. Not to resist when the offensive begins and those who lay down their arms are guaranteed safety.# s. }# P9 D% d2 W6 B

9 x# @3 a! @* H; I$ i5 oCivilians caught in a war zone are always advised to stay in their homes.
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Humanitarian corridors are being organized in all cities to get the population out of the area of hostilities, and their security is also maintained./ x2 d; y, W2 r  a
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Humanitarian corridors are being created in all towns to allow people to leave the area where the fighting is taking place, and their security is being maintained.. I7 l$ E) s* V+ ~6 d2 r! f

7 P( D3 @# V- \" ~In addition, at the initiative of the Ukrainian leadership, the country has become a home to 6,595 foreign mercenaries and terrorists from 62 states.
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They are not subject to the rules of war and will be ruthlessly destroyed.
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3 a+ _0 Y: }" H( ~4 D1 c  C6 l: dToday, the number of foreign mercenaries is declining. This was facilitated by high-precision strikes on their bases and training camps. On March 13, more than 200 militants were killed and more than 400 wounded in Starichi and at the Yavorovskii training ground alone." {$ _" l- c/ p: t+ w' S# R3 @, O
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I note that not a single foreign mercenary has arrived in Ukraine in the last seven days. On the contrary, there has been an outflow. Within a week, 285 fighters escaped into Poland, Hungary and Romania, I hope without Stingers and Javelins.( v* ~( u% a  R. c- p! q+ N
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Previous experience has shown that man-portable air defence systems (MANPADS) and ATGMs are spreading out fairly quickly, along with the mercenaries who return home.
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In general, the main objectives of the first phase of the operation have been achieved. The combat capabilities of Ukraine's Armed Forces have been significantly reduced, which allows us, once again, to concentrate our main efforts on achieving the main goal - the liberation of Donbass.% s, R) P, F" G1 F8 a

9 ^# {3 `, I8 Q0 J& QIn eight years, in the area of the so-called "joint forces operation", a defence belt has been prepared that is deeply echeloned and well-fortified in engineering terms, consisting of a system of monolithic, long-term concrete structures.
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/ U' i: N. `3 X( fIn this regard, in order to minimise casualties among the troops of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lugansk and Donetsk people's republics, the conduct of offensive operations is preceded by a heavy fire attack on the enemy's strongholds and their reserves.
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4 e6 m+ A1 c* K9 FAt the beginning of the special military operation, the LPR and DPR people's militias were confronted by a group of 59,300 people comprising the most combat-ready units of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, the National Guard and nationalist formations.
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/ T2 u+ f7 M& I% b2 d' wAs a result, Ukraine's security forces in the OOS zone lost about 16,000 people, or 26% of their total strength as of 24 February this year.
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More than 7,000 of them were irrecoverable losses.  i0 `2 [- i- ]2 U) }
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Replacing losses is prevented by isolating the Ukrainian grouping of troops in Donbass, taking control of railway stations and key road routes with firepower.
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The supply of missiles and ammunition, fuel and food to Ukrainian forces has been almost completely halted.
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1 V: y' B7 {. F5 [3 x, P& bThe field depots of missile and artillery weapons and ammunition, as well as fuel located directly in the area of the Joint Forces Operation are being hit. To date, 32 facilities have been destroyed, or 61% of the total.% u. _" W6 Q  x' z6 I$ P: o, |

$ i8 n( a5 L' lAll weapons and military equipment, including foreign-made, seized by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation during the special military operation are handed over to the People's Republics. Already 113 tanks and other armoured combat vehicles, 138 Javelin and 67 NLAW grenade launchers and other trophy weapons have been handed over.. j7 K4 N3 J+ t& B2 J
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Units of the People's Militia of the Lugansk People's Republic have liberated 93% of the republic's territory.
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Fighting is currently taking place on the outskirts of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk.
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# k2 h7 \0 B/ D5 VThe People's Militia of the Donetsk People's Rupublic controls 54% of the territory. The liberation of Mariupol continues.
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All family support solutions will be taken over by the state, raising children up to higher education, full repayment of loans, housing solutions.# M1 U1 k0 z7 m/ f
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We receive a large number of appeals from Russian citizens wishing to take part in the special military operation to liberate Ukraine from Nazism.
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0 C  M  c2 w+ Q6 X  z, \In addition, more than 23,000 foreigners from 37 countries have expressed their willingness to fight on the side of the people's republics. We offered the leadership of the LPR and DPR to accept this assistance, but they said they would defend their land themselves.8 \( A& g" Z5 [+ M4 w% p
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/ X$ A8 q  q7 O' X& nThe Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will continue to conduct a planned special military operation until the tasks set by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief have been completed.
作者: MacArthur    时间: 2022-3-26 04:19
过河卒 发表于 2022-3-25 14:55
# s4 ~6 `5 o  |; P* b你敢说俄军进展低于预期。 俄总参不同意。) A% U9 Q4 J2 r" R
这个是俄国防部的今天新闻发布会的官宣,但在美国的看不到。因 ...

( B0 p: \0 k- J# y0 d. G5 i这是准备借坡下驴啦。。。
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往后肯定是强撑着往脸上贴金 -- 反正我赢了我赢了就是我赢了不管你们信不信我反正是信了。。。 然后赶紧提桶跑路呗。。。
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作者: 法乎其上    时间: 2022-3-26 04:20
MacArthur 发表于 2022-3-25 16:473 w- x$ w' f- P0 c; f, K% A" y! g
乌克兰在2014年吃了大毛一个屁墩之后,就意识到了向北约靠拢的重要性。所以很快就全方位地跟北约展 ...
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靠向by就是他们今天命运的根源。
$ n" c" E4 {, P' ?2 h; B有什么条件打什么仗才是正道。
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作者: 被明月兮佩宝璐    时间: 2022-3-26 04:28
MacArthur 发表于 2022-3-26 04:19" ~7 s3 d$ c( E" ^" P& [
这是准备借坡下驴啦。。。
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往后肯定是强撑着往脸上贴金 -- 反正我赢了我赢了就是我赢了不管你们信不信 ...
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如果这就下坡,普构怕是白做这么多年总统了。现在这种局面,选择苟,他就不怕突然中风么?红十月或者皇俄上来,哪个他都捞不到好。




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