草蜢 发表于 2012-7-16 15:43& y7 D/ Q( N9 N! k" T9 s
师妹还是太年轻,生活这东东需要慢慢去体会。其余滴俺不多说了,兄弟们咱们在男人帮内部讨论。{:191 ...
So I don't think, honestly, we're an animal that was built to be happy; we are an animal that was built to reproduce. I think the happiness we find, we make. And I think, however, we can make good relationships with each other.
九九 我也是这么想的。女人家庭责任感更重,感情上会偏向正方;男人可能对反方比较有体会,但理性上也认同正方。 发表于 9 分钟前
...Foremost, women are starting to express their sexuality. I'm always astonished when people come to me and say, "Why is it that men are so adulterous?" And I say, "Why do you think more men are adulterous than women?" "Oh, well -- men are more adulterous!" And I say, "Who do you think these men are sleeping with?" And -- basic math! (Laughter)
我也是这么想的。女人家庭责任感更重,感情上会偏向正方;男人可能对反方比较有体会,但理性上也认同正方。
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For a long time, Dr. Fisher explains, adultery was a man's game. That's because women depended on their husband for their livelihood and support; if they strayed from the marital bed, they might lose that security. (In previous hunting and gathering societies, where both genders contributed more equally to the family, women were more likely to cheat.)
The modernized economy has changed the stats. Recent surveys show that for those under 40, adultery rates are the same for men and women. "Now, as women are piling back in the job market and regaining what they have lost -- economic power -- they are expressing their sexuality," Dr. Fisher says. "They can risk it."
Why we cheat
And there's more bad news: Men and women may cheat equally now, but they have different goals. For a dude, it might be about "sex and adventure" -- also known as the novelty of seeing a pair of boobs that do not belong to your wife. For women, adultery tends to signify a deeper dissatisfaction. She's not sleeping around because she wants a one-night thrill; she's probably looking for a whole new life.
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"54 percent of men in one study who'd been adulterous said they were perfectly happy with their wife," Fisher says, compared to only 36 percent of women. "Women are more likely to go out when they're looking for something else -- they're looking for a new partner."
Highway 发表于 2012-7-16 22:00
一夫一妻制恐怕难以得到革命性的改变。 -- 你如果仔细看看,这个制度已经在改变了。' q! }7 {0 p" G, O& Z
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九九 发表于 2012-7-17 11:53`0 ?* q% }3 e8 ~" @! b$ t4 c" C8 r
用“革命性”,我的意思包括:a.大范围或主流;b.程度上的彻底4 ^6 D9 [; k4 \
1和2都是有历史宗教渊源的特殊例子,不能 ...
Highway 发表于 2012-7-17 12:08, X. i7 T# C* L$ W: [5 V- k
“革命性” -- 这个词就看你怎么把握了。就我而言,二十年前如果说男人和男人,或者是女人和女人可以法定 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 13:09
这例子真…… 不过挺 make sense.7 ~+ J4 z1 I' A9 V% T2 g7 o; w+ Z
人类的潜力显然很大,所以雄性特征明显的社会应该prefer一妻多 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 13:09
这例子真…… 不过挺 make sense.3 M4 n( Y+ p' A4 F# H! T
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人类的潜力显然很大,所以雄性特征明显的社会应该prefer一妻多 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 13:28; ~) P4 |0 I2 C: r& b5 |4 U. L
虽然离婚类似于解约,而且现代人在离婚方面的心理和经济压力都比以前小得多了,但对大多数人来说还是有阻 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 13:36+ _+ o$ U% }; U+ z( o( K. y* k
既然还是以雌性的“开放”做标准,与一妻多夫描述并不矛盾呵
甚至可以用一妻x夫来index社会的雄性指数… ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 06:26
俗话说男人帮在火星,女生宿舍在金星,加强交流体会有利于增进宇宙和平啊
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的确我的正反方设定并 ...
糊里糊涂 发表于 2012-7-17 10:10
看了一圈,这里就没一个爽快人。: C1 N6 Y1 q9 D2 t* E/ U- }+ p
我基本支持反方,基本的意思是,不同意最后一点,我认为婚姻是和经济(本 ...
babo007 发表于 2012-7-17 01:46' x$ M& b7 B% M7 c% p$ J
其实更好的解释是:' k. s" g4 d: v! n/ w7 A
男 人 帮,是男人的帮,不是“男生帮”。
女 生 宿舍,是女生的宿舍,不是“女人 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-17 23:42. h% F2 e, j- w
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长远来看,大多数社会现象都可以追根溯源到资源和生产力上,婚姻的形式也不例外。感觉人口数量与 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-18 00:30/ S3 j7 h" D8 g7 p
建议你去看一看Helen的视频。她讲的主要是Science of Love,我的问题只是截取其中一个观察。在开头部分, ...
不爱吱声 发表于 2012-7-18 03:01: T* ]) \; J0 r4 [# v
群交是对人类社会发展有伤害的。& E* f# Y- \3 `( s. }* J$ y. z6 X$ X/ S
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因为群交的后果必定是导致生殖力的强的个体(不管是雄性的大睾丸,还是 ...
草蜢 发表于 2012-7-17 16:495 R8 \6 f: C; x; V
既然师妹对一妻x夫感兴趣,俺就再说一段。8 q9 N ?. L' y* f
西藏传统的一妻多夫制可能是最有名的。但草蜢一直还以为这个 ...
不爱吱声 发表于 2012-7-17 14:01O) v% U0 T4 @/ y
群交是对人类社会发展有伤害的。8 ~ ~& l+ B4 y0 r) ?% N
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因为群交的后果必定是导致生殖力的强的个体(不管是雄性的大睾丸,还是 ...
九九 发表于 2012-7-18 06:12; k5 W# e% z: |; X1 W- _ f! R
其实俺对现实生活中的一夫n妻的例子没有太大兴趣。还是谢谢草蜢兄的解答。, u: s1 w7 ^+ \
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九九 发表于 2012-7-18 06:33
老大的观点我大部分同意。$ |. k7 K+ d3 N: ]& c( U- [1 Y
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一个相关的结论是,假设经济和社会地位完全平等,婚姻的状态应由在生育活动中 ...
草蜢 发表于 2012-7-17 17:419 ^0 `. Q# h" p8 h
给师妹提醒一下哈,母系氏族社会!=母权社会。matrilineal descent and matriarchy are not the same!
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九九 发表于 2012-7-18 07:51( C2 F U9 L5 n3 j- L- Z& d* G
好吧,无论未来可能产生的以女性为主导的社会形态会是什么样,其肯定与用来描述早期人类社会的“母系氏族 ...
进化本身也是随机产生的而不是有理性选择性的。。
煮酒正熟 发表于 2012-7-20 04:30& G. V' _- i3 k# n: ~& [, H# U
ok let's use a 0-100 scale to represent your degree of satisfication, with 0 being absolutely not ...
煮酒正熟 发表于 2012-7-19 15:30
ok let's use a 0-100 scale to represent your degree of satisfication, with 0 being absolutely diss ...
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