晨枫 发表于 2018-5-4 21:36:24

美中经济对话双方要求清单

本帖最后由 晨枫 于 2018-5-4 07:49 编辑

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-04/here-s-what-u-s-demanded-of-china-at-the-start-of-trade-talks

美国要求:
Trade Deficit Reduction
- The U.S. wants China to cut the two nations’ trade deficit by at least $200 billion by the end of 2020 from 2018 levels.
- Chinese purchases of U.S. goods will represent at least 75 percent of a commitment to a $100 billion increase in purchases of U.S. exports for the 12 months beginning June 1, 2018, and at least 50 percent of China’s commitment to an additional $100 billion increase in purchases of U.S. exports in the 12 months beginning June 1, 2019.
Protection of American Technology and Intellectual Property
- China to immediately cease providing subsidies and government support that fuels excess capacity in industries targeted by the Made in China 2025 plan.
- Specific policies and practices linked to technology transfer are eliminated.
- A cessation of government-sponsored cyber intrusion and cyber theft.
- Strengthened intellectual property rights protection and enforcement.
- By Jan. 1, 2019, China will eliminate provisions of the Regulations on the Administration of the Import and Export of Technologies and the regulations on the Implementation of the Law on Chinese-Foreign Equity Joint Ventures identified in the U.S.
- By July 1, 2018, China will withdraw its request for WTO consultations in United States – Tariff Measures on Certain Goods from China and take no further action on the matter
- The document also calls on China to take no retaliatory action in response to actions taken or to be taken by the U.S.
Restrictions on Investment in Sensitive Technology
- A demand that China does not “oppose, challenge, or otherwise retaliate against the United States’ imposition of restrictions on investments from China in sensitive U.S. technology sectors or sectors critical to U.S. national security.”
U.S. Investment in China
- A demand that China does not distort trade through investment restrictions and any restrictions are narrow and transparent
- U.S. investors in China to receive “fair, effective and non-discriminatory market access and treatment, including removal of the application of foreign investment restrictions and foreign ownership/shareholding requirements.”
- China to issue an improved nationwide negative list for foreign investment by July 1, 2018. Within 90 days the U.S. will identify existing investment restrictions that deny U.S. investors market access. China is then to remove all identified investment restrictions on a timetable to be decided by both nations.
Tariff and non-tariff barriers
- By July 1, 2020, China will reduce tariffs on all products in non-critical sectors to levels that are no higher than the levels of the U.S.’ corresponding tariffs
- China to remove specified non-tariff barriers and recognizes that the U.S. may impose import restrictions and tariffs on products in critical sectors, including sectors identified in the Made in China 2025 industrial plan.
U.S. Services and Services Suppliers
- A demand for China to improve market access in specified ways
U.S. Agricultural Products
- A demand for China to improve market access in specified ways
Implementation
- Both countries to meet quarterly to review targets and reforms
- If the U.S. declares China is not complying with the framework, the U.S. can impose tariffs or other restrictions on Chinese products or restrict supply of services
- A demand that China does not “oppose, challenge or take any form of action against the United States’ imposition of additional tariffs or restrictions.”
- China to withdraw its WTO complaints regarding designations of China as a non-market economy and will refrain from future challenges
- Within 15 days of receiving written notice of a prohibited product that may have been transshipped through one or more countries, China will provide full details of every shipment. Failure to do so will trigger tariffs.
- If China fails to uphold commitments the U.S. will impose tariffs on imports from China and will confiscate counterfeit and pirated goods or levy tariffs to compensate for lost technologies and intellectual property.
- A demand that China does not take any retaliatory action in response.

中国要求:
- In an official document seen by Bloomberg News, China stated that measures to open up its economy will not be applicable to U.S. investors if the U.S. doesn’t meet China’s request on equal treatment of Chinese investment. Other requests of the U.S. included:
- Lift bans on exports of integrated circuits to China.
- Stop imposing 25 percent extra tariffs against Chinese products.
- Open government procurement to Chinese technology products and services.
- Give equal treatment to Chinese companies in national security review.
- Adjust the export ban on ZTE. Corp.
- Drop surrogate-country approach in anti-dumping, anti-remedy cases.
- Not to initiate any Section 301 investigation against China in the future.
- Open its e-payment market to Chinese companies.
- Approve China International Capital Corp.’s application for a financial license.
- Open the e-payment market to Chinese companies

不知道这个清单直接来自特朗普,还是他的七人帮团队?感觉应该是前者。霸道和自以为是是肯定的,但这样的清单是业余,还是无知?这样的清单想拉上盟国一起跟中国干?这就是他的Art of Deal?也好,让美国更多的人看看,什么样的条件还上得了桌面,什么样的条件直接请回。

应该把庚子赔款时的八国联军的要求拿出来对照一下。难怪会谈“坦诚、高效、富有建设性”。

然后203 发表于 2018-5-4 21:55:41

原来,坦诚的意思是说“不要脸”{:191:}

猫元帅 发表于 2018-5-4 21:57:49

这种会谈把2025计划列进去实在是……

不知道是怎么想的。

smileREGENT 发表于 2018-5-4 22:21:47

July 1 2018
是凑巧还是故意的{:224:}

桃子甜 发表于 2018-5-4 22:22:38

漫天要价谁不会啊,我也开个单子:取消瓦森纳协议,取消中资进入美国的障碍,开放美国市场对中国企业的限制,开放美国基建项目对中国企业,合理计算中美贸易逆差(美国企业在中国的出口额,不算中国的出口)。
这几条下来,你看看,2020年中美贸易绝对能平衡。

关中农民 发表于 2018-5-4 22:38:27

桃子甜 发表于 2018-5-4 22:22
漫天要价谁不会啊,我也开个单子:取消瓦森纳协议,取消中资进入美国的障碍,开放美国市场对中国企业的限制 ...

合理计算中美贸易逆差(美国企业在中国的出口额,不算中国的出口)。
就这一个,就可以把逆差降下来

pcb 发表于 2018-5-4 23:11:15

中国要求里面
- Open its e-payment market to Chinese companies.
- 。。。。。。.
- Open the e-payment market to Chinese companies

重复?不重复?its vs the?

锦候 发表于 2018-5-4 23:22:47

本帖最后由 锦候 于 2018-5-4 23:27 编辑

这单子我早上看了一个2000亿,说是要求中国把贸易顺差减少2000亿,外电报道说上个月川普还说1000亿呢,不知道为什么这次突然升到2000亿。

难怪我看的报道说,美国代表团对这次谈判感觉也是很不重视,似乎代表团内部的意见也是不统一。看了这个单子才明白,这要是稍微有点常识的人都知道这条件跟今时今日的中国根本没法谈呀,这条款搁在庚子年,老佛爷能大概能答应。

这条件这语气怎么看都是川普的,这货陷到“you are fired”的那个角色中太深了,这么多年都拔不出来。

就这条件中国看完了还招待美国人吃烤鸭?来人呀! 把负责接待的人被拉出去翻过来打!{:195:}{:195:}{:195:}{:195:}{:195:}

晨枫 发表于 2018-5-5 00:00:49

pcb 发表于 2018-5-4 09:11
中国要求里面
- Open its e-payment market to Chinese companies.
- 。。。。。。.


原文如此,可能是笔误

晨枫 发表于 2018-5-5 00:02:43

锦候 发表于 2018-5-4 09:22
这单子我早上看了一个2000亿,说是要求中国把贸易顺差减少2000亿,外电报道说上个月川普还说1000亿呢,不知 ...

烤鸭估计是自费的,本来谈成了,老大接见,那就包餐了。{:187:}

zxb0412 发表于 2018-5-5 01:07:54

这个单子肯定“坦诚、高效、富有建设性”。
中方:这个单子我们没法接受。
美方:我觉得你们也不会接受。
----------- 坦诚 ----------------
一句话的事情,这不叫高效,还有什么是高效?
这种谈判估计双方以前都没有见识过,当然具有“建设性”。
:lol:lol:lol

semtex 发表于 2018-5-5 02:10:37

美国谈判的可能就真的相信。中国早就该跪求了。

gfsun 发表于 2018-5-5 02:42:18

嗯,双方在彼此不能达成共识这点上达成了共识

龙驹坝 发表于 2018-5-5 03:28:48

gfsun 发表于 2018-5-5 02:42
嗯,双方在彼此不能达成共识这点上达成了共识

Agree to disagree. :lol

Wonderland 发表于 2018-5-5 03:42:08

美国的强国梦。

燕庐敕 发表于 2018-5-5 06:57:19

老床估计真的是武大郎开店,不用比自己高的。

晨枫 发表于 2018-5-5 07:42:18

燕庐敕 发表于 2018-5-4 16:57
老床估计真的是武大郎开店,不用比自己高的。

问题是他这简直业余得不像话了,估计真干过公司老板的人都不屑这样的伎俩。他这老板要不是老板遗传,可能还真当不上。

燕庐敕 发表于 2018-5-5 07:43:19

晨枫 发表于 2018-5-5 07:42
问题是他这简直业余得不像话了,估计真干过公司老板的人都不屑这样的伎俩。他这老板要不是老板遗传,可能 ...

也许他要不是生在老板家,也就不会这样肆意妄为了。

梓童 发表于 2018-5-5 07:59:37

然后203 发表于 2018-5-4 21:55
原来,坦诚的意思是说“不要脸”

川皇应该加一条:一字不许改,敢不同意就打上门去。

noexit 发表于 2018-5-5 08:24:50

我去,太离谱了!怎么不要求海关总署署长由美国人担任,关税全部存在花旗银行!
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